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Jean-Francois Lisée continues attack on new target: Québec Solidaire

Lisée wouldn't backing off Friday from his questioning — first introduced at Thursday's leaders debate — of who's "really pulling the strings" in rival party Québec Solidaire.

PQ leader says Québec Solidaire is getting 'free ride' over unconventional leadership structure

PQ Jean-Francois Lisée surprised many during Thursday night's leaders debate when he pivoted from a discussion on health care into questioning Québec Solidaire leader Manon Massé about who was really "pulling the strings" behind the scenes in her party. (TVA)

Parti Québécois Leader Jean-François Lisée was not backing off Friday from his questioning — first introduced at Thursday's leaders debate — of who's "really pulling the strings" in rival party Québec Solidaire.

"I want clarity. I want transparency. I want authenticity," Lisée said at a news conference in Montreal Friday.

Lisée was pelted with questions from reporters about why, after mostly targeting the CAQ and the Liberals during the campaign so far, he has suddenly turned his guns on Québec Solidaire and its leadership structure.

"For me, it was about how to stop the free ride of Québec Solidaire, so I chose that approach. I think it's the right one, and I'm glad I did," Lisée said.

"The mere fact that nobody asks the question — who is the leader of Quebec Solidaire? Why don't we know him?  Why don't we see him? Why doesn't he give interviews?  — is a reflection of the free ride."

Québec Solidaire co-spokesperson Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois said he was surprised by Lisée's sudden interest in the inner workings of the party.

"Honestly, my first reaction when I heard that was like — what is happening with Jean-François Lisée? I mean, what did he eat for dinner last night?" he said.

Debate surprise

Lisée launched his surprise salvo during a segment while debating with the other Quebec Solidaire co-spokesperson, Manon Massé, about the shortage of family doctors.

"I'm being asked not to ask questions that are too hard of Manon Massé," Lisée said. "But I have a supplementary question to ask: This is a leaders debate.… If you aren't the leader of Québec Solidaire, then who is and why isn't he here at the leaders debate?"

In a scrum immediately after the debate, many reporters wondered what Lisée was talking about.

"Québec Solidaire is now an important player in this campaign, and the co-spokespeople, Manon Massé and Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois are terrific. But they're spokespeople. Who is the boss of these spokespeople? Who are they speaking for?" Lisée said.

Québec Solidaire is different

Québec Solidaire does indeed have an unconventional leadership structure.

Since its inception in 2006, the party has always designated two "co-spokespeople" — one man and one woman.
Québec Solidaire's leadership structure is unconventional, as this elaborate organigram demonstrates. (Québec Solidaire)

Those roles are now filled by Massé and Nadeau-Dubois. They are the most high-profile members of the party and both are travelling the province campaigning.

The party voted before the campaign to select Massé as the official candidate for premier, so she participated in the  debates and will serve as premier if Québec Solidaire forms government.

Nadeau-Dubois would be named deputy premier. The party says Massé would be chief executive and head of state, while Nadeau-Dubois would be in charge of parliamentary proceedings and setting the legislative agenda.

But Lisée is right: neither Massé nor Nadeau-Dubois is the official leader of the party.

Mystery man revealed

That role is filled by a largely unknown former candidate who is also the party's secretary-general: Gaétan Châteauneuf.

Châteauneuf emerged from the shadows Friday to speak to Radio-Canada. 

He said he was dumbfounded when he found himself being alluded to during the leaders debate.

Gaétan Chateauneuf, the man who is the titular leader of Québec Solidaire and who Lisée is accusing of being a shadowy puppet master, told Radio-Canada he's amused by the allegations. (Radio-Canada)

"I was sitting in my living room at my house, and I found it funny, comical, this situation," Châteauneuf said.

Châteauneuf said he's a retired volunteer who is mostly in charge of administration and paperwork for the party.  But he acknowledged he is indeed the titular leader of the party.

"Election law obliges us to have someone designated as leader for the all the documentation and administration," he said.

But he said he has no ambitions beyond that, and decision-making is left entirely to the party membership, with Nadeau-Dubois and Massé delivering the message.

Lisée mocked 

"I think the vast majority of Quebecers understand that very simple system. I don't understand why, in the middle of a debate about health care, Jean-François Lisée finds it crucially important to talk about that," Nadeau-Dubois said.

He speculated it's because the PQ is bleeding support to Québec Solidaire.

Lisée, who has been showing off his sense of humour during the campaign, was the target of some Twitter mockery Friday over the attacks:


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Steve Rukavina has been with CBC News in Montreal since 2002. In 2019, he won a RTDNA award for continuing coverage of sexual misconduct allegations at Concordia University. He's also a co-creator of the podcast, Montreapolis. Before working in Montreal he worked as a reporter for CBC in Regina and Saskatoon. You can reach him at stephen.j.rukavina@cbc.ca.