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Canada's ambassador to China says nations must co-operate despite strained relationship

With relations between Canada and China strained, Jennifer May, Canada's ambassador to China says the nations must find areas of co-operation in order to further conversations on important bilateral issues.

Canada and China must co-operate 'where it makes sense,' Jennifer May says

Xi Jinping holds up hands in expression of frustration during chat with Justin Trudeau.
Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks with China's President Xi Jinping at the G20 Leaders' Summit in Bali, Indonesia, on Nov. 16. Relations between the two nations have been strained by allegations of China's interference in Canadian elections. (Adam Scotti/PMO via Reuters)

With relations between Canada and China strained, Canada's ambassador to China says the nations must find areas of co-operation in order to further conversations on important bilateral issues.

"We have to make sure that we're extending the hand, that we're finding the areas of co-operation where we can and where it makes sense," said Jennifer May, Canada's ambassador to China, in an interview on Rosemary Barton Live.

"At the same time, we have the open and frank dialogue on difficult issues and that we stand up for ourselves where we have to do that too."

May said Canada must take a "varied approach" to its relationship with China to make progress on files such as trade and climate change, but she points out that this can be hard to do as Canadians are increasingly losing trust in the relationship, particularly due to claims of foreign interference. 

WATCH | Aim to keep status quo and not increase tensions, says May: 

Aim to keep status quo and not increase tensions, says Canada's ambassador to China

1 year ago
Duration 9:00
Chief political correspondent Rosemary Barton speaks with Canada's ambassador to China, Jennifer May, about Ottawa's relationship with Beijing amidst growing tension and controversy, including foreign interference and Ottawa's new Indo-Pacific strategy.

Citing unnamed national security sources, the Globe and Mail and Global News have reported that Beijing has deployed operations meant to influence and interfere in Canadian politics — including the 2019 and 2021 elections.

Those operations allegedly have included attempts to intimidate and influence members of Parliament and fund political candidates, among other claims. 

Tit-for-tat diplomatic expulsions

In May, the federal government expelled Chinese diplomat Zhao Wei, who was accused of targeting Conservative MP Michael Chong.

"We will not tolerate any form of foreign interference in our internal affairs," Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly said in a statement in May. "Diplomats in Canada have been warned that if they engage in this type of behaviour, they will be sent home."

Zhao reportedly played a role in attempts to gather information on and intimidate Chong's family in Hong Kong in 2021 following the MP's condemnation of Beijing's conduct in the Xinjiang region as genocide.

In a tit-for-tat response, China expelled a Canadian diplomat in Shanghai.

May said this is often the way these situations play out, but it is still "regrettable" and has had a "negative impact" on the relationship between Canada and China. 

On Tuesday, the RCMP said it will be investigating the allegations that China attempted to target and intimidate Chong and his family. Commissioner Mike Duheme said this case is one of more than 100 investigations the RCMP has opened on foreign interference.

WATCH | RCMP investigating whether China intimidated MP: 

RCMP investigating claims China intimidated Conservative MP Michael Chong

1 year ago
Duration 1:59
RCMP Commissioner Mike Duheme revealed to MPs that the force has opened an investigation into allegations of China targeting Conservative MP Michael Chong and his family. It has also offered help to Elections Canada with other investigations involving Erin O'Toole and Jenny Kwan.

Canada must respond, whether privately or publicly, to claims of intimidation campaigns by China on Canadians, said May. There are different ways to do this — the RCMP is one, diplomatic channels are another.

Positive aspects of countries' relationship overshadowed

"It's really important that we are taking action, that we are conveying that back to the Chinese," she said. "Because it's also extremely important that Canadians have trust in their democratic institutions and systems."

With the issue of foreign interference top of mind for Canadians, May says the development of the important positive aspects of the Canada-China relationship are hindered.

She points to the Indo-Pacific Strategy and the importance of China as a market for Canadian businesses as well as bilateral agreements on mitigating climate change and supporting clean growth.

May said it is important for the two nations to maintain their relationship in light of their differences and try hard to foster better "channels of communications."

"If we only talk to people with whom we are in full agreement, we'd be having a dialogue with ourselves most of the time," she said. 

You can watch Rosemary Barton Live's full interview with Jennifer May, Canada's ambassador to China, on Sunday, June 18 at 10 a.m. ET.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Jessica Mundie

CBC Journalist

Jessica Mundie is a senior writer with Power & Politics. She has also worked as a writer and producer for CBC in Ottawa and Prince Edward Island. Jessica was previously the Michelle Lang Fellow at Postmedia. Reach her by email at jessica.mundie@cbc.ca.

With files from Darren Major and Catharine Tunney

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