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Common interest will ensure Canada-U.S. trade conflicts get solved: Chris Hall

Canada remains confident a deal can be reached with the United States on softwood lumber without repeating the drawn-out trade litigation of the past.

Beyond the 'noise' of Trump's rhetoric are compelling interests for trade co-operation, experts say

A large pile of logs are stacked in a yard by a heavy-duty vehicle.
NAFTA renegotiations won't be completed quickly, says former ambassador to the U.S. Raymond Chrétien, which provides an incentive for the Trump administration to complete a deal with Canada on softwood lumber. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

Canada remains confident a deal can be reached with the United States on softwood lumber without repeating the drawn-out trade litigation of the past.

Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr says reaching a new long-term deal is the best option, even as he repeats his warning that jobs will be lost in Canada as a result of the U.S. lumber industry's lobbying for new duties on Canadian imports.

"The complications are that you have lobbies at work, lots of political pressures. But our experience is, in all of these conversations, at every level of the United States government and beyond … people see the common interest."

The U.S. Commerce Department imposed preliminary duties of between three and 24 per cent on Canadian softwood imports this week. More anti-dumping duties are expected in the future.

'We won't sign a bad deal'

Trump's Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said that the White House had hoped to get this dispute out of the way before NAFTA negotiations begin.

Michael Froman, who served as former president Barack Obama's top trade negotiator, told CBC News that a deal was in reach, but the Canadian side felt it could get better terms with Trump. 

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and President Donald Trump shake hands after a joint news conference at the White House in Washington in February. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

But in an interview with CBC Radio's The House, the natural resources minister said there was "no good deal possible from the Canadian perspective" with the Obama administration.

"We weren't prepared to sign a bad deal. We won't sign a bad deal. If we have to wait it out we will," said Carr. "And we'll use all the options available to us, but I don't think that's in the interests of either Canada or the United States."

Even so, Carr believes there's an opportunity to get a deal. It's a view shared by Quebec's lead negotiator, Raymond Chrétien, who served as Canada's ambassador to Washington in the 1990s.

"I'm confident that there's a window perhaps for a negotiated settlement for the following reason: Mr. Trump has indicated that he wanted a quick … renegotiation of NAFTA, but this is not possible in my view," Chrétien said.

"So why not solve the lumber dispute before you tackle the more comprehensive, complicated NAFTA negotiations? So hopefully there's a small window there, and I'm sure that in Ottawa they would welcome a softwood lumber deal."

Pushback from U.S. exporters

Softwood is not the only trade irritant Trump is highlighting. He's blamed Canada for being unfair to American dairy producers. He's still threatening to rip up the North American Free Trade Agreement unless he can negotiate a fair deal for American workers.

Trade experts say U.S. President Donald Trump's aggressive posture on trade has alarmed the U.S. agriculture sector, which relies on foreign markets. (Kevin Lamarque/Reuters)

Laura Dawson, director of the Canada Institute at the Wilson Centre in Washington, D.C., said Trump's rhetoric this week claiming NAFTA has been horrible for the U.S. and a disaster doesn't match the reality that the trade deal "has been pretty darn good" for the U.S.

"When Donald Trump's announcements were coming out this week, the U.S. agriculture sector pushed back really hard. U.S. farms depend on exports to Canada and Mexico, and they were having none of this. So he's gotten a lot of pushback."

Dawson said the Trump Administration is trying to stir up American opposition to free trade following the failure to get rid of Obamacare and as it meets congressional opposition to a budget plan.

That's why Dawson thinks Trudeau's approach is the right one, reminding Trump in one of their phone calls this week of the negative impact that scrapping NAFTA would have on jobs and businesses on both sides of the border.

Partner with Mexico

Dawson said Canada should also work with Mexico as both countries prepare to discuss changes to NAFTA.

Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto shakes his fist as he talks about the value of made-in-Mexico products. Canada and Mexico should work together in advance of NAFTA talks, says trade expert Laura Dawson. (Rebecca Blackwell/Associated Press)

"Mexico has really strong retaliatory power in the United State. Every bit of corn the U.S. exports is bought by Mexico. If they stop buying U.S. corn that would be a big deal for U.S. agriculture. Similarly, the security front — if they stop co-operating on the U.S. southern border … that's a big deal for the United States.

"So I think Canada needs to be a partner for Mexico."

Colin Robertson, a former Canadian diplomat in the U.S., wrote this week for the Canadian Global Affairs Institute that managing the Trump file — and getting it right — has to be Trudeau's first priority.

"While much of Mr. Trump's rhetoric is merely noise, what is dangerous about the noise is the effect it is having on business confidence, both domestic and foreign."

What's gone beyond noise now is the dispute over softwood lumber. Carr said the federal government is prepared to assist those in the forest sector who are affected.

"There will be closures. Sawmills will be under pressure. But nothing yet is certain except that we are prepared with a number of policy options that we will work out with our provincial counterparts, and we will be ready."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Chris Hall

Former National Affairs Editor

Now retired, Chris Hall was the CBC's national affairs editor and host of The House on CBC Radio, based in the Parliamentary Bureau in Ottawa. He began his reporting career with the Ottawa Citizen before moving to CBC Radio in 1992, where he worked as a national radio reporter in Toronto, Halifax and St. John's. He returned to Ottawa and the Hill in 1998.