Trudeau meets with the premiers as Trump ramps up his threats against Canada
Alberta Premier Danielle Smith says there's a 'personal animus' between Trump and Trudeau — and it's a concern
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the premiers will meet Wednesday to discuss strategy as president-elect Donald Trump threatens to upend the bilateral relationship with punitive tariffs on everything Canada sends to the U.S.
Trudeau has sought to reassure the country that Canada is equipped to handle Trump in his second term because he and his team have past experience with the sometimes mercurial incoming president.
He will speak to the premiers today around 5 p.m. ET about presenting a united front against the U.S. threats. The premiers are also expected to push Trudeau to change direction by acquiescing more to Trump's demands to maintain cross-border trade.
At least one premier — Alberta's Danielle Smith — signalled she's not sure Trudeau is the person best placed to deal with Trump given past tension between the two.
One of Trump's former advisors, John Bolton, his national security advisor in the first term, has said the president-elect doesn't like Trudeau and sent out his emissaries to attack the prime minister on U.S. television in the first term.
After he lost the presidency, Trump called Trudeau "a far left lunatic" who "destroyed Canada" with his COVID-era policies. Trump also torpedoed the Canada-hosted G7 by lashing out at the prime minister on his way out of Charlevoix, Que.
"I don't think we should underestimate the personal animus between these two leaders. And if he's not the right person to have at the negotiation table, we need to make sure that the right person is," Smith said in an interview with CBC's Power & Politics before today's meeting.
But Trudeau also said Tuesday he had a "good" conversation with Trump after he issued that social media post announcing his plan to levy tariffs the day he takes office.
Sources have described the phone conversation as productive with Trudeau stressing there will be economic pain not only for Canada but Americans too if he goes ahead with his plan. Tariffs levied on Canadian goods could make those products more expensive to American consumers.
Smith said from the premiers' perspective, it's not clear who's leading Canada's efforts to dissuade Trump from punishing the country with tariffs.
Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland leads cabinet's Canada-U.S. committee, and Trudeau has tasked Industry Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne and International Trade Minister Mary Ng with leading the Team Canada outreach efforts to U.S. politicians and businesses.
"I think he's probably recognized that" he's not the best person to sit at the negotiating table with Trump, Smith said of Trudeau.
Smith, who said she's worried about the severe economic ramifications for her province if Trump goes ahead with a 25 per cent tariff on all Canadian goods, is going to push Trudeau to take Trump's threats seriously and address what he's most worried about: illegal migration and drugs from Canada headed to the U.S.
"Let's stop the leaky border first, let's stop the illegal migration first, let's stop the fentanyl first. Let's meet our NATO commitments first, and let's see where we get with the Americans," Smith said.
"The U.S. has legitimate issues that they have raised with us and we've got to address those legitimate issues," she said.
Asked if Smith risks undermining Canada's negotiating hand when dealing with Trump by freelancing policy ideas from her perch in Alberta, the premier said she's "voicing the concerns of Canadians."
On the border and drugs, Smith said, "it is up to the federal government to change gears" to maintain a positive relationship with the U.S.
Trump has cited drugs and the border as the reason to slap tariffs on Canada and Mexico. But the data reveals Canada is not nearly as much of a concern to the U.S. on those two issues.
Data from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) seized just 19.5 kg of fentanyl at the northern border last year compared to a whopping 9,570 kg at the southwestern one.
As for illegal migrants, there's a huge disparity between Canada and Mexico.
CBP officers intercepted about 198,000 people crossing illegally into the U.S. from Canada over the last year — a fraction of the 2.1 million "encounters" at the southern border.
But there has been an uptick in these encounters along the northern border — two years ago the number of encounters was less than 90,000.
An "encounter" is defined as CBP apprehending, detaining or expelling someone who has crossed into the U.S. illegally or is ineligible for entry.
Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Andrew Furey said Wednesday there are real concerns about some border issues— but it's not just what Canada's sending to the U.S.
Migrants, drugs and firearms also flow over that border into Canada, Furey said in an interview on CBC News Network.
"We need to have a mature, adult conversation about how to fix those real issues at the border but applying tariffs to oil and gas, electricity, lumber and crab — that's not going to change those real, pertinent issues that impact Canadians and Americans," he said, referencing some industries that could see tariffs applied if Trump goes ahead with his plan.
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Furey said he will counsel Trudeau to include the premiers in the "Team Canada" approach to the U.S. — the Liberal government's plan of deploying Canadian officials across the U.S. to convince Americans it's not in their best interest to take us on.
"I believe there is a diplomatic resolution to the president's call," Furey said.
Asked what sort of tone Trudeau and his team should take with Trump, Furey said tough but firm given what's at stake for the country economically.
More than 60 per cent of Newfoundland and Labrador's seafood is exported to the U.S. and a 25 per cent tariff on those goods would be "devastating," he said.
"I think we have to take an approach of being willing and wanting to work with the Trump administration but also we need to have the courage as leaders to stand up for what's right, for what's just and what's fair for workers," Furey said.
"The small communities, the heart and soul of Newfoundland and Labrador will bear the burden of this incredibly punitive, myopic tariff."
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