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Afghan interpreter must be rescued from Taliban, says retired N.L. military officer

A retired military leader in Newfoundland is calling on Canada to rescue an Afghan interpreter who's being pursued by the Taliban. The former brigadier-general says the interpreter risked his life for the Canadian Armed Forces, and now the country has a duty to help him.

Afghan man, shot for helping Canada, constantly moving and hiding while waiting for travel visa

Two men in military gear are posing inside a military vehicle. The man known as Joe is blurred and not visible.
Retired brigadier-general James Camsell is pictured with Afghan interpreter 'Joe' in 2008. Camsell is part of an organization trying to bring Joe to safety in Canada following the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan. (Submitted by James Camsell)

When news broke that coalition forces were leaving Afghanistan this summer, James Camsell feared his friend "Joe" might be dead.

The Taliban has tried to kill Joe before, and Camsell, a retired Canadian Armed Forces brigadier-general who served in Afghanistan between 2008 and 2009, hadn't spoken with him in more than a decade.

"I never thought I would hear from him again," he said.

But then in August, Camsell got an email from the Afghan man who had worked alongside him as an interpreter in Kandahar province. Camsell calls him "Joe" to protect his real identity.

"He contacted me looking for help to immigrate to Canada," Camsell said. "I gave him some information, and then didn't hear from him for a few weeks."

Then Kabul fell.

"I assumed he was on the run or he had been killed," he said.

I'm not staying in one location more than two or three hours. Three times [the Taliban] came to my house.- Afghan interpreter 'Joe'

In early September, another email arrived. It was Joe, now desperate, who disclosed he was in hiding with his family.

"He's scared," Camsell said. "He's frightened about feeding his family because he can't get to a bank.… The Taliban [are] questioning people in lineups. He was saying, 'Help me. I need Canada to help me.'"

A group of men dressed in traditional Afghan clothes and armed with rifles walk down a crowded city street.
Taliban soldiers walk towards Afghans shouting slogans in Kabul on Sept. 7. Joe describes moving locations every few hours to evade them. (Wali Sabawoon/The Associated Press)

Camsell put CBC News in contact with Joe, who remains in Afghanistan, through a video call, in which Joe described the increasing danger to him and his family under Taliban rule. CBC has agreed to protect his identity.

"They are the government of Afghanistan but they cannot feed themselves. They don't have food. They don't have money for themselves. How are they going to run the government?" Joe said, upbeat in spite of his situation.

"Everybody is trying to get out of Afghanistan because their kids, their wives, their families want food, everything — all the facilities — from the Taliban, but they cannot provide it."

A military officer in uniform stands with his arm around a man whose face is blurred to protect his identity.
Camsell is pictured with Joe in 2008. CBC has blurred the photo to protect Joe's identity. (Submitted by James Camsell)

Joe also confirmed that he's constantly moving and hiding to avoid the Taliban.

"I'm not staying in one location more than two or three hours. Three times they came to my house. They are asking, 'Where is he? We want to talk with him. We want to give him a job.' They are making excuses. After that, they are making a target," he said.

[The Taliban] said, 'You are working with high ranking Canadians. Therefore, you are a target. You should be killed.'- James Camsell

Camsell says the Afghan interpreter has good reason to hide. He has no doubt why the Taliban wants to find him; members of the group have tried to kill Joe before.

"He was helping what was considered a foreign enemy," Camsell said. "He was at risk all the time."

In 2010, Taliban fighters attempted a targeted assassination on Joe, shooting him in his vehicle on his way home, according to Camsell.

Joe was wounded in that attack, and hounded with calls from the Taliban days later.

"They said, 'You are working with high ranking Canadians. Therefore, you are a target. You should be killed,'" Camsell said.

A man in Canadian military uniform holding a rifle stands by an amoured military military vehicle in Afghanistan.
Camsell spent two years in Afghanistan. He now lives in Newfoundland and Labrador, where he's a high school teacher. (Submitted by James Camsell)

Camsell helped train the Afghan National Army in Kandahar province, travelling on operations with them and working to offer safe education for girls. Camsell says those efforts wouldn't have been possible without interpreters like Joe. 

They were more than co-workers, he said.

"He became a close friend of mine. Without interpreters in Afghanistan operations wouldn't occur, because they know the local customs," he said,adding that interpreters often serve as the sole link between Canadian and Afghan military staff, who often didn't speak the same language.

The Taliban consider working for coalition forces treason, leaving interpreters at great risk. Because of that, Camsell says Canada owes interpreters a huge debt, believing it unconscionable for Canada to abandon Afghan nationals like Joe and his family.

People tried desperately to board flights leaving Kabul as the Taliban took control of Afghanistan this summer. (CBC)

"We have a moral obligation to him. You know, he shed blood for this country. He was wounded. Other interpreters, journalists have been killed over there. So the [Canadian] government needs to do work to get them out," said Camsell.

Camsell, now a teacher at Holy Heart of Mary High School in St. John's, also works with a group called the Veterans Transition Network, which advocates for Afghan nationals who helped Canada.

With their help, Joe has applied to Canada's special immigration measures program. Acceptance would give him a travel visa to leave Afghanistan. Joe says he's contacted Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada, but he's waiting for them to respond.

CBC News asked IRCC for an interview but its officials replied instead with a statement.

"We recognize the urgency of the situation, and we will continue to work as quickly as possible to get as many people as possible to Canada. The government of Canada has been able to get approximately 3,700 evacuees, including Canadian citizens and permanent residents, out of Afghanistan," the department said.

"We are working to process applications as quickly as possible. Our network of visa officers throughout the Middle East and in Ottawa are processing applications remotely and digitally, and are working around the clock."

The statement says Canada is committed to resettling about 20,000 vulnerable Afghan nationals. It also says Canada is focused on Afghan nationals, and their family members, who supported the Government of Canada's work in Afghanistan.

IRCC has received more than 12,000 applications for resettlement from Afghanistan and approved more than 8,000, according to the department.

Joe and his six family members are not yet among them.

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Mark Quinn

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Mark Quinn is a videojournalist with CBC's bureau in St. John's.